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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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The Alt-A downgrades are accelerating. It&#039;s ugly.
I wonder what interest hikes by the FED will do to these bonds ?</description>
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<p>The Alt-A downgrades are accelerating. It&#8217;s ugly.<br />
I wonder what interest hikes by the FED will do to these bonds ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These were the same baby boomers that lost money in the internet boom. This baby boomer generation has no brains. They always do what is popular and do it &quot;en masse&quot;. In the 60&#039;s making revolution was popular. In the 80&#039;s it was silver, gold, commodities.  In the 90&#039;s technology was their religion. And in this century their new mantra was real estate. No sympathy for this group. Most of the baby boomers will finish destitute. That&#039;s why they are broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were the same baby boomers that lost money in the internet boom. This baby boomer generation has no brains. They always do what is popular and do it &#8220;en masse&#8221;. In the 60&#8242;s making revolution was popular. In the 80&#8242;s it was silver, gold, commodities.  In the 90&#8242;s technology was their religion. And in this century their new mantra was real estate. No sympathy for this group. Most of the baby boomers will finish destitute. That&#8217;s why they are broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Extra Mile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extra Mile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can certainly understand the concerns/losses/status of those more recent 1st time buyers who purchased in the last three years or so with little or nothing down.  True, just about every one of those buyers are upside down today.  However, the part I have a hard time wrapping my noodle around, is when I hear people talking about baby boomers in this position with &quot;no equity and no retirement left after the real estate crash&quot;.   The best empirical evidence I have is to look at my parents for an example.  They purchased the house they currently own circa 17 years ago.  They were move-up buyers at that time, and carried over the proceeds from their prior sale as a down payment.  They have refinanced a couple of times over the years, but not to make &quot;ATM withdrawals&quot;.  The main motivation was typically rate/term driven.  

Cut to present day: yes, their home in southern CA has lost considerable value.  However, because they have been homeowners (responsible ones, that is) for so long, the recent drop in home values probably spiked their LTV from about 25% during peak value times, to MAYBE 35% on the high side based on current values.  They still have a nice sized chunk of nest egg left in that home.  

So, it always baffles me when I hear about baby boomers who have &quot;lost everything&quot; in the past year or two.  Did you get such a late start that you&#039;re more readily likened to the recent 1st time buyer with no money down, or were you simply caught up in the credit-addicted customs of our society and lived above your means?  I thought that was an affliction mostly suffered by the younger generations and that most boomers were still relatively conservative when it came to living on credit and above one&#039;s means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can certainly understand the concerns/losses/status of those more recent 1st time buyers who purchased in the last three years or so with little or nothing down.  True, just about every one of those buyers are upside down today.  However, the part I have a hard time wrapping my noodle around, is when I hear people talking about baby boomers in this position with &#8220;no equity and no retirement left after the real estate crash&#8221;.   The best empirical evidence I have is to look at my parents for an example.  They purchased the house they currently own circa 17 years ago.  They were move-up buyers at that time, and carried over the proceeds from their prior sale as a down payment.  They have refinanced a couple of times over the years, but not to make &#8220;ATM withdrawals&#8221;.  The main motivation was typically rate/term driven.  </p>
<p>Cut to present day: yes, their home in southern CA has lost considerable value.  However, because they have been homeowners (responsible ones, that is) for so long, the recent drop in home values probably spiked their LTV from about 25% during peak value times, to MAYBE 35% on the high side based on current values.  They still have a nice sized chunk of nest egg left in that home.  </p>
<p>So, it always baffles me when I hear about baby boomers who have &#8220;lost everything&#8221; in the past year or two.  Did you get such a late start that you&#8217;re more readily likened to the recent 1st time buyer with no money down, or were you simply caught up in the credit-addicted customs of our society and lived above your means?  I thought that was an affliction mostly suffered by the younger generations and that most boomers were still relatively conservative when it came to living on credit and above one&#8217;s means.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, with this recent crash of mortgage bonds, I declare we are in the 3rd inning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, with this recent crash of mortgage bonds, I declare we are in the 3rd inning.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Snith - I shot you an email. Comic - totally agree. And they are still rallying behind the very same investment banks who created all of this. This is a top down issue. Consumers are not without blame but the IBs followed by the banks make credit addicts out of everyone. Who is the most at fault, the columbian drug cartels or the drug user. Drug users have to share in responsibility but not at the levels of the cartels. The cartels are executed, the users are given treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Snith &#8211; I shot you an email. Comic &#8211; totally agree. And they are still rallying behind the very same investment banks who created all of this. This is a top down issue. Consumers are not without blame but the IBs followed by the banks make credit addicts out of everyone. Who is the most at fault, the columbian drug cartels or the drug user. Drug users have to share in responsibility but not at the levels of the cartels. The cartels are executed, the users are given treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: ComicPro</title>
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		<dc:creator>ComicPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading John smith&#039;s post the reality and real face of this bubble is very much into focus. Here is a person who probably did the right thing his entire life and listened to the experts on how to amass wealth through real estate and keep a portion of your assets there for your retirement. how many baby boomers are now eligible for retirement and who now certainly cant retire as many have lost plenty. The true pain is yet to come. The Generation x-ers who were expecting many retirements from the baby boomers will now have to wait longer for that potential promotion or job as people are not leaving as predicted.My point is look at the many things touched by all these instances involving just mortgages? Who would have thought it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading John smith&#8217;s post the reality and real face of this bubble is very much into focus. Here is a person who probably did the right thing his entire life and listened to the experts on how to amass wealth through real estate and keep a portion of your assets there for your retirement. how many baby boomers are now eligible for retirement and who now certainly cant retire as many have lost plenty. The true pain is yet to come. The Generation x-ers who were expecting many retirements from the baby boomers will now have to wait longer for that potential promotion or job as people are not leaving as predicted.My point is look at the many things touched by all these instances involving just mortgages? Who would have thought it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; Mr Mortgage - RECORD-BREAKING MAY CA FORECLOSURE REPORT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; Mr Mortgage - RECORD-BREAKING MAY CA FORECLOSURE REPORT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mortgage Bonds Slipping Back to Worst Levels Ever  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, not to worry -- the 2nd half housing recovery will being in about 3 weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, not to worry &#8212; the 2nd half housing recovery will being in about 3 weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also one might ask: What will happen when the paper submitted to the &#039;alphabet soup&#039; auction facilities set up by the Fed is finally returned to the balance sheets of the borrowing institutions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also one might ask: What will happen when the paper submitted to the &#8216;alphabet soup&#8217; auction facilities set up by the Fed is finally returned to the balance sheets of the borrowing institutions?</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr. Mortgage, 
Your exposure of the banks mortgage lending practices impressed me both for your honesty in front of the camera  and your willingness to make calls based on demonstrable facts such as actual bank documents. I feel like you are someone I can send this note to.

&quot;I will start by saying I&#039;m afraid. If my business associates, my younger brother, my daughters or even my now passed mother and father ever heard me say this they would each be shocked - maybe frightened that I would be afraid. But I am. I live inside the beltway in Washington DC. I am a prosperous consultant with a nice income and a 12 room McMansion on a half acre with pool and spa. There is only my spouse and myself at home. For many years we supported an invalid relative who lived with us until her recent death and were in the process of selling our home to buy a smaller one that would still enable us to care for our relative in her final years - she fell and died at age of 90. 
Our Zillow Appraised home is $1,877,000 and the smaller one we purchased was $1,300,000. The fiction of these numbers became clear when the real estate agents started with appraisals on our larger house at $1,250,000. A number recently confirmed by  our new tax assessment which dropped $600,000 from last year. 

The new smaller home we closed on is down over $350,000 and our loan payments on both properties take all our disposable income. 

Situational reality has taken me to bk attorneys - $2300 down a rat hole. They know less about Chapter 7 for folks like me than I do. Hell around here they don&#039;t even know how to determine solvency for IRS standards. Their total ignorance on the subject is due entirely to this areas late experience with the credit implosion. How many others like me are out there in DC and Potomac and Fairfax and Greatfalls I don&#039;t know. Maybe there are many  All vastly upside down - insolvent not by thousands but by hundreds of thousands and at  retirement ages with little chance of recovery. 
My neighbors don&#039;t even know we moved into a 2 bedroom apartment in Arlington - we did it before our credit collapsed due to non payment of the mortgages. I even bought a Honda Fit - after not owning a car for five years and tried to take care of the many other issues soon to be faced when my FICO is closer to 290 than 700 and even using a credit card to book a hotel room will be a problem.
 At some point my family will discover that my retirement hopes are  gone and  except for what income savings I can hang on to between now and 65 will be all that keeps me and my wife alive along with any social security payments   we may have earned along the last 45 years. 

This situation - of our own choosing by the way - we blame  no one other than ourselves for not factoring in this horrendous collapse in real estate values - But we have basically lost our most precious possession - not the furniture, the big house or the lost retirement income held in our vanished home equity. 
What we have felt as our biggest lost is a past - a past made of wonderful years together believing if we lived right, saved our money and kept it in real estate then we could imagine a bright future. We have lost that future. How do other people handle this? That&#039;s my question to you Mr. Mortgage. 

When I get up I no longer fill the thrill to start my 6am workout - my 3 mile run and weights. My great health at age 62 now seems sort of pointless.  I no longer think of the wonderful country we live in and the great life I have lived even counting those 3 bad years in 68 as an Army Lt. Instead I am just sad. 

Again, thank you for having the guts to tell the truth and  make the evidence known. Keep it up and I will keep reading your lines. 
Last of the LT&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr. Mortgage,<br />
Your exposure of the banks mortgage lending practices impressed me both for your honesty in front of the camera  and your willingness to make calls based on demonstrable facts such as actual bank documents. I feel like you are someone I can send this note to.</p>
<p>&#8220;I will start by saying I&#8217;m afraid. If my business associates, my younger brother, my daughters or even my now passed mother and father ever heard me say this they would each be shocked &#8211; maybe frightened that I would be afraid. But I am. I live inside the beltway in Washington DC. I am a prosperous consultant with a nice income and a 12 room McMansion on a half acre with pool and spa. There is only my spouse and myself at home. For many years we supported an invalid relative who lived with us until her recent death and were in the process of selling our home to buy a smaller one that would still enable us to care for our relative in her final years &#8211; she fell and died at age of 90.<br />
Our Zillow Appraised home is $1,877,000 and the smaller one we purchased was $1,300,000. The fiction of these numbers became clear when the real estate agents started with appraisals on our larger house at $1,250,000. A number recently confirmed by  our new tax assessment which dropped $600,000 from last year. </p>
<p>The new smaller home we closed on is down over $350,000 and our loan payments on both properties take all our disposable income. </p>
<p>Situational reality has taken me to bk attorneys &#8211; $2300 down a rat hole. They know less about Chapter 7 for folks like me than I do. Hell around here they don&#8217;t even know how to determine solvency for IRS standards. Their total ignorance on the subject is due entirely to this areas late experience with the credit implosion. How many others like me are out there in DC and Potomac and Fairfax and Greatfalls I don&#8217;t know. Maybe there are many  All vastly upside down &#8211; insolvent not by thousands but by hundreds of thousands and at  retirement ages with little chance of recovery.<br />
My neighbors don&#8217;t even know we moved into a 2 bedroom apartment in Arlington &#8211; we did it before our credit collapsed due to non payment of the mortgages. I even bought a Honda Fit &#8211; after not owning a car for five years and tried to take care of the many other issues soon to be faced when my FICO is closer to 290 than 700 and even using a credit card to book a hotel room will be a problem.<br />
 At some point my family will discover that my retirement hopes are  gone and  except for what income savings I can hang on to between now and 65 will be all that keeps me and my wife alive along with any social security payments   we may have earned along the last 45 years. </p>
<p>This situation &#8211; of our own choosing by the way &#8211; we blame  no one other than ourselves for not factoring in this horrendous collapse in real estate values &#8211; But we have basically lost our most precious possession &#8211; not the furniture, the big house or the lost retirement income held in our vanished home equity.<br />
What we have felt as our biggest lost is a past &#8211; a past made of wonderful years together believing if we lived right, saved our money and kept it in real estate then we could imagine a bright future. We have lost that future. How do other people handle this? That&#8217;s my question to you Mr. Mortgage. </p>
<p>When I get up I no longer fill the thrill to start my 6am workout &#8211; my 3 mile run and weights. My great health at age 62 now seems sort of pointless.  I no longer think of the wonderful country we live in and the great life I have lived even counting those 3 bad years in 68 as an Army Lt. Instead I am just sad. </p>
<p>Again, thank you for having the guts to tell the truth and  make the evidence known. Keep it up and I will keep reading your lines.<br />
Last of the LT&#8217;s.</p>
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