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		<title>By: MortgageNewsClips: WaMu, End of Monoline, Atlanta Credit Counselors, Buy Land?, MR Mortgage, Trump&#8217;s Home, Oil High, FBI Fraud, Paul Kasriel, 7 more News Clips</title>
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		<description>[...] MR Mortgage - S&amp;P Slashes BofA to a Sell - Thanks Countrywide! - Only abut 6 months after I told clients “there is no way in hell without a bailout that BofA will take on all Countrywde’s toxins” and a couple of months after I put out the story below on the subject, S&amp;P slashes BofA to a sell reducing their price target to $24. They cite “worries over the mortgage portfolio the bank will inherit” and “take unfavorable note of the large Countrywide option-adjustable rate mortgage portfolio that Bank of America will inherit.” &#8230; - MR Mortgage [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MR Mortgage &#8211; S&amp;P Slashes BofA to a Sell &#8211; Thanks Countrywide! &#8211; Only abut 6 months after I told clients “there is no way in hell without a bailout that BofA will take on all Countrywde’s toxins” and a couple of months after I put out the story below on the subject, S&amp;P slashes BofA to a sell reducing their price target to $24. They cite “worries over the mortgage portfolio the bank will inherit” and “take unfavorable note of the large Countrywide option-adjustable rate mortgage portfolio that Bank of America will inherit.” &#8230; &#8211; MR Mortgage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Tran&#8217;s Daily 101 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Housing June 23, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Tran&#8217;s Daily 101 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Housing June 23, 2008</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting to hear the responses to the following questions (or even the questions themselves) from those promoting this bailout:

What do you tell the responsible neighbor of the guy who gets his loan forgiven that he has to continue paying his full mortgage despite the fact they have the same house and paid the same for it?  Or the other neighbor who bought the smaller, more affordable house/condo and now has to watch his neighbor get a huge break on the mortgage?  Or the renter who saved and didn&#039;t act irresponsibly and buy beyond his/her means only to find out the Federal government is now attempting to prop up the house prices?

If this has been asked on National TV, I&#039;m curious as to the responses.  Or, if it has not been asked, why not?

Thanks,

Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting to hear the responses to the following questions (or even the questions themselves) from those promoting this bailout:</p>
<p>What do you tell the responsible neighbor of the guy who gets his loan forgiven that he has to continue paying his full mortgage despite the fact they have the same house and paid the same for it?  Or the other neighbor who bought the smaller, more affordable house/condo and now has to watch his neighbor get a huge break on the mortgage?  Or the renter who saved and didn&#8217;t act irresponsibly and buy beyond his/her means only to find out the Federal government is now attempting to prop up the house prices?</p>
<p>If this has been asked on National TV, I&#8217;m curious as to the responses.  Or, if it has not been asked, why not?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MortgageMan - you are probably right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MortgageMan &#8211; you are probably right.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot. Thanks for reminding me. LEVEL 2.
The names have a science fiction ring to it.
Massive recapitalisation is coming.

The problem is so huge that I can&#039;t even imagine what these companies are really worth. It&#039;s evident that PPT is at work. Morgan Stanley is not worth 40$ in the real world. Same thing  for most of the companies in the list.

It will be interesting to see what will happen to UBS monday morning. Another -30% ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot. Thanks for reminding me. LEVEL 2.<br />
The names have a science fiction ring to it.<br />
Massive recapitalisation is coming.</p>
<p>The problem is so huge that I can&#8217;t even imagine what these companies are really worth. It&#8217;s evident that PPT is at work. Morgan Stanley is not worth 40$ in the real world. Same thing  for most of the companies in the list.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what will happen to UBS monday morning. Another -30% ?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - add level 2 to that and the numebrs jump 300%. Remember, level 2 assets are worth much less than par too. Everyone forgets about this chosing to focus on level 3. Level 2 would be considered alt-a while level 3 is subprime in mortgage terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; add level 2 to that and the numebrs jump 300%. Remember, level 2 assets are worth much less than par too. Everyone forgets about this chosing to focus on level 3. Level 2 would be considered alt-a while level 3 is subprime in mortgage terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is nice of candidates for eventual downgrades to zero, for bankruptcy or at least for massive shareholder dilution.Scary all over. You can call them &quot;the bag holder&quot;. 

No place to hide and not just homebuyer hit. Pension funds and company balance sheet hit.

NO PLACE TO HIDE.


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(Financial Sense Online june 18th 2008 Deepcaster)

Assets That Aren’t

Moreover, the prospects are slim-to-none for U.S. headquartered businesses-in-general having or achieving the capacity to catalyze an economic turnaround. Indeed, ten major companies have more “Level 3” Assets than capital. They are (as a percentage of total shareholder equity):

Bear Stearns 313.97%
Morgan Stanley 234.88%
Merrill Lynch 225.4%
Goldman Sachs 191.56%
Lehman 171.18%
Fannie Mae 161.47%
Northwest Air 142.02%
Citigroup 125.06%
Prudential 119.36%
Hartford 108.52%

Remember that the essence of a Level 3 Asset is that it has “no observable input.” That is, the company which owns a Level 3 Asset also determines its ostensible value.

Companies having a significant portion of their portfolios in Level 3 Assets claim that they are valuing these Assets by “Marking to (their subjective) Model.” Deepcaster’s view is that this is “Marking to Myth.”

A number of Level 3 Assets have, unsurprisingly, recently tended to be illiquid. 

Reality Check: That which is illiquid has no market and therefore no market value.

Indeed, these harsh realities, and the consequences for consumers of Hyperinflation and a contracting economy, are starting to percolate into the mainstream consulting and media worlds.

““Suddenly consumers are focused on buying what they have to have as opposed to buying what they want to have,” said Howard Davidowitz, Chairman of Davidowitz &amp; Associates, a New York retail consulting and investment-banking firm. “This is a permanent change for Americans who will face a declining standard of living over the next 20 years,” he added. (emphasis added) Jennifer Waters, MarketWatch, June 17, 2008


http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2008/0620.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is nice of candidates for eventual downgrades to zero, for bankruptcy or at least for massive shareholder dilution.Scary all over. You can call them &#8220;the bag holder&#8221;. </p>
<p>No place to hide and not just homebuyer hit. Pension funds and company balance sheet hit.</p>
<p>NO PLACE TO HIDE.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
(Financial Sense Online june 18th 2008 Deepcaster)</p>
<p>Assets That Aren’t</p>
<p>Moreover, the prospects are slim-to-none for U.S. headquartered businesses-in-general having or achieving the capacity to catalyze an economic turnaround. Indeed, ten major companies have more “Level 3” Assets than capital. They are (as a percentage of total shareholder equity):</p>
<p>Bear Stearns 313.97%<br />
Morgan Stanley 234.88%<br />
Merrill Lynch 225.4%<br />
Goldman Sachs 191.56%<br />
Lehman 171.18%<br />
Fannie Mae 161.47%<br />
Northwest Air 142.02%<br />
Citigroup 125.06%<br />
Prudential 119.36%<br />
Hartford 108.52%</p>
<p>Remember that the essence of a Level 3 Asset is that it has “no observable input.” That is, the company which owns a Level 3 Asset also determines its ostensible value.</p>
<p>Companies having a significant portion of their portfolios in Level 3 Assets claim that they are valuing these Assets by “Marking to (their subjective) Model.” Deepcaster’s view is that this is “Marking to Myth.”</p>
<p>A number of Level 3 Assets have, unsurprisingly, recently tended to be illiquid. </p>
<p>Reality Check: That which is illiquid has no market and therefore no market value.</p>
<p>Indeed, these harsh realities, and the consequences for consumers of Hyperinflation and a contracting economy, are starting to percolate into the mainstream consulting and media worlds.</p>
<p>““Suddenly consumers are focused on buying what they have to have as opposed to buying what they want to have,” said Howard Davidowitz, Chairman of Davidowitz &amp; Associates, a New York retail consulting and investment-banking firm. “This is a permanent change for Americans who will face a declining standard of living over the next 20 years,” he added. (emphasis added) Jennifer Waters, MarketWatch, June 17, 2008</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2008/0620.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2008/0620.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mortgageman85</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article and probaly solid stats.  Problem with the stats is, it does not matter.  Portfolio could be worth zero cents on the dollar and BfA will still come out smelling like a rose.  It absolutely 100% is a bailout of an institution that is too big to fail.  BofA will not pay back the FHLB advance and the credit lines will be settled for pennies on the dollar or bought with treasuries is some disguised manner.  BofA CEO is a superstar for exploiting their political cronies and will make billions personally when all the dust settles.

Don&#039;t say it can&#039;t happen because it has all happened before.  FSLIC went bankrupt in 1988 resulting in FIRREA.  FIRREA created the RTC which had virtually a blank check to cover all losses.  Results of the act today are the massive banking structures that took all the deposits and the massive mortgage entities that took all the loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article and probaly solid stats.  Problem with the stats is, it does not matter.  Portfolio could be worth zero cents on the dollar and BfA will still come out smelling like a rose.  It absolutely 100% is a bailout of an institution that is too big to fail.  BofA will not pay back the FHLB advance and the credit lines will be settled for pennies on the dollar or bought with treasuries is some disguised manner.  BofA CEO is a superstar for exploiting their political cronies and will make billions personally when all the dust settles.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t say it can&#8217;t happen because it has all happened before.  FSLIC went bankrupt in 1988 resulting in FIRREA.  FIRREA created the RTC which had virtually a blank check to cover all losses.  Results of the act today are the massive banking structures that took all the deposits and the massive mortgage entities that took all the loans.</p>
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		<title>By: feng</title>
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		<dc:creator>feng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, I believe, by increasing gas price and Chinese Dollar&#039;s value dramatically, China lost its best opportunity to become the world super power...

Yes, US citizens gonna suffer a lot more in short term, especially those non-saving-credit-abuse suckers. 

In the long run, a lot of US manufacturers will be forced to move back to the States, thus create a sound foundation for our future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I believe, by increasing gas price and Chinese Dollar&#8217;s value dramatically, China lost its best opportunity to become the world super power&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, US citizens gonna suffer a lot more in short term, especially those non-saving-credit-abuse suckers. </p>
<p>In the long run, a lot of US manufacturers will be forced to move back to the States, thus create a sound foundation for our future.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If CFC craters it&#039;s 20% of the mortgage market that goes down the drain. Systemic risk. Sugar daddy Bernanké at the rescue. No not Sugar Daddy. Sugar taxpayer at the rescue. What is feared by all the gang is the domino effect. They will come to the rescue again and pump the thing to death. &quot;Inflate or die.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If CFC craters it&#8217;s 20% of the mortgage market that goes down the drain. Systemic risk. Sugar daddy Bernanké at the rescue. No not Sugar Daddy. Sugar taxpayer at the rescue. What is feared by all the gang is the domino effect. They will come to the rescue again and pump the thing to death. &#8220;Inflate or die.&#8221;</p>
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