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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One person above was savvy enough to flag the &lt;b&gt;Bank of Japan&lt;/b&gt; as a prime mover in this global inflationary mess. Bravo! Their selfish &lt;i&gt;win the trade war at all costs&lt;/i&gt; plan of action has led us to this mess; their reckless currency devaluation has been accomplished by flooding the world with yen, which has really been at the root of all the other fiat currency explosions. Yes, the Chinese are doing it too but really, they&#039;re just following Japan&#039;s lead. Remember, this is the same megalomaniacal bunch who gave us the lovely slogan &quot;business is war.&quot;

But since the US is the goose laying toyota Motor&#039;s golden eggs, they don&#039;t dare do anything that would harm us. Besides, we protect them from the Chinese - for free, I might add with a scowl.

From where I&#039;m standing, the biggest danger is this: a world war against the US would cost the Chinese much more that the value of their current US debt holdings, and China doesn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about anyone but themselves, when all is said and done. I can easily see the Chinese dumping their US debt, destroying the US economy - and with it, the US war machine - and taking their long-desired place as the world&#039;s only global superpower. Remember, they believe in all that &quot;Middle Kingdom&quot; crapola. &lt;i&gt;They&#039;re better than everyone else, and if you ask them, they&#039;ll tell you all about it.&lt;/i&gt;

Stocking up on food and so forth is a dandy idea. But the best idea is paying off every last bit of your debt ASAP. Our government is totally bought and paid for by the money caste, and when this all hits the fan, the laws will swiftly be changed to give the money caste any excuse they can get to come take all your stuff away from you. Houses, cars, credit cards: pay &#039;em all off. Quick, fast and in a hurry.

Alarmism? No. A pragmatic and realistic view of what human beings are all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One person above was savvy enough to flag the <b>Bank of Japan</b> as a prime mover in this global inflationary mess. Bravo! Their selfish <i>win the trade war at all costs</i> plan of action has led us to this mess; their reckless currency devaluation has been accomplished by flooding the world with yen, which has really been at the root of all the other fiat currency explosions. Yes, the Chinese are doing it too but really, they&#8217;re just following Japan&#8217;s lead. Remember, this is the same megalomaniacal bunch who gave us the lovely slogan &#8220;business is war.&#8221;</p>
<p>But since the US is the goose laying toyota Motor&#8217;s golden eggs, they don&#8217;t dare do anything that would harm us. Besides, we protect them from the Chinese &#8211; for free, I might add with a scowl.</p>
<p>From where I&#8217;m standing, the biggest danger is this: a world war against the US would cost the Chinese much more that the value of their current US debt holdings, and China doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about anyone but themselves, when all is said and done. I can easily see the Chinese dumping their US debt, destroying the US economy &#8211; and with it, the US war machine &#8211; and taking their long-desired place as the world&#8217;s only global superpower. Remember, they believe in all that &#8220;Middle Kingdom&#8221; crapola. <i>They&#8217;re better than everyone else, and if you ask them, they&#8217;ll tell you all about it.</i></p>
<p>Stocking up on food and so forth is a dandy idea. But the best idea is paying off every last bit of your debt ASAP. Our government is totally bought and paid for by the money caste, and when this all hits the fan, the laws will swiftly be changed to give the money caste any excuse they can get to come take all your stuff away from you. Houses, cars, credit cards: pay &#8216;em all off. Quick, fast and in a hurry.</p>
<p>Alarmism? No. A pragmatic and realistic view of what human beings are all about.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we just have to Wait to  see what happens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we just have to Wait to  see what happens</p>
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		<title>By: cabo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is true Here are the links 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/25451427

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/06/30/afx5166111.html

This is real. The global economy is going to implode</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is true Here are the links </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/25451427" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnbc.com/id/25451427</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/06/30/afx5166111.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/06/30/afx5166111.html</a></p>
<p>This is real. The global economy is going to implode</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Très sages ces Hollandaises et très belles. My first girlfriend was a cute redhead from Holland. :) If you say so it must be true. So Fortis was not joking ? The problem with the US, is that the rest of the world think that these things don&#039;t happen in the US. 

Know thy US of A history. It would not be the first time it happens. US independance debts to France 48 million dollars, were never paid back to Louis XV. The fiasco of the Continental. The Conferate Bank worthless bank bills and the civil war hyperinflation.  Yes Virginia. These things happened even in the US of A. A long time ago, but it can still happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Très sages ces Hollandaises et très belles. My first girlfriend was a cute redhead from Holland. <img src='http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If you say so it must be true. So Fortis was not joking ? The problem with the US, is that the rest of the world think that these things don&#8217;t happen in the US. </p>
<p>Know thy US of A history. It would not be the first time it happens. US independance debts to France 48 million dollars, were never paid back to Louis XV. The fiasco of the Continental. The Conferate Bank worthless bank bills and the civil war hyperinflation.  Yes Virginia. These things happened even in the US of A. A long time ago, but it can still happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fortis hoax is not a hoax. I am Dutch, and I found the original article on the Financiële Telegraaf:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/bedrijven/fortis/4339542/Amerikaanse__rsquo_meltdown_rsquo__reden_geldinjectie_Fortis.html

The translation in English is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fortis hoax is not a hoax. I am Dutch, and I found the original article on the Financiële Telegraaf:<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/bedrijven/fortis/4339542/Amerikaanse__rsquo_meltdown_rsquo__reden_geldinjectie_Fortis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/bedrijven/fortis/4339542/Amerikaanse__rsquo_meltdown_rsquo__reden_geldinjectie_Fortis.html</a></p>
<p>The translation in English is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad time for stocks.
Bab time for bonds.
Bad time for anything related to financials.
Increased bank failures. 

You forgot John Williams.
Stagflation ? Hyperinflation ? Yes. It will happen when foreigners finally get tired of the paper burning their pockets. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV110mMvnUY&amp;NR=1

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A little bit of history
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPitcRcIT7U&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad time for stocks.<br />
Bab time for bonds.<br />
Bad time for anything related to financials.<br />
Increased bank failures. </p>
<p>You forgot John Williams.<br />
Stagflation ? Hyperinflation ? Yes. It will happen when foreigners finally get tired of the paper burning their pockets. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV110mMvnUY&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV110mMvnUY&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
A little bit of history</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPitcRcIT7U&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPitcRcIT7U&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwH7NHU_KkM&amp;NR=1

The biggest hoax. The hoax of the century is the Labor Department phoney and corrupted statistics. 
The Bush and the Clinton administration, all both controlled by Goldman Sachs, loved and cultivated hoaxes in grand scale. 

http://www.shadowstats.com/

Fortis or Labor Department trash ? No real difference. 

We are going to experience a hyperinflationnary depression, an energy crisis, massive bankruptcies and another stupid oil war with Iran.

Oh did I mention it, the end (good riddance !) of the dollar-standard and the return to the stability of the gold-standard. Oil is going to 200$ or 300$ with Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwH7NHU_KkM&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwH7NHU_KkM&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p>The biggest hoax. The hoax of the century is the Labor Department phoney and corrupted statistics.<br />
The Bush and the Clinton administration, all both controlled by Goldman Sachs, loved and cultivated hoaxes in grand scale. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.shadowstats.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shadowstats.com/</a></p>
<p>Fortis or Labor Department trash ? No real difference. </p>
<p>We are going to experience a hyperinflationnary depression, an energy crisis, massive bankruptcies and another stupid oil war with Iran.</p>
<p>Oh did I mention it, the end (good riddance !) of the dollar-standard and the return to the stability of the gold-standard. Oil is going to 200$ or 300$ with Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But a nice hoax. It&#039;s about the way it will happen when the shit hits the fan. Rush to the exit doors all at the same time and everybody trampled to death. Petdot.con,  WORLDCON, ENRON and PARMALAT, NORTEL Networks, Bre-X, Bear Stearns, were hoaxes too and it lasted years and years. The 500 billion NINJA or liar loans were hoaxes. Countrywide was a hoax. Mozilo pay wasn&#039;t. 

Al Quaida who knows ?, is maybe just a fantastic hoax fabricated and financed by Haliburton and the arms dealers. Saddam Hussein arm&#039;s of mass destruction was a hoax but not the 330 billion of oil under his feet.  You see. Hoaxes are everywhere. This hoax is fantastic one and like I said, it&#039;s the way it will happen. No joke.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDgrvYd36k&amp;eurl=http://www.itulip.com/

This was not a hoaxe. It was on Bloomberg Asia on Sunday night. 53 trillion debts. I think the interviewed manager is dutch. Maybe it&#039;s him ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But a nice hoax. It&#8217;s about the way it will happen when the shit hits the fan. Rush to the exit doors all at the same time and everybody trampled to death. Petdot.con,  WORLDCON, ENRON and PARMALAT, NORTEL Networks, Bre-X, Bear Stearns, were hoaxes too and it lasted years and years. The 500 billion NINJA or liar loans were hoaxes. Countrywide was a hoax. Mozilo pay wasn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Al Quaida who knows ?, is maybe just a fantastic hoax fabricated and financed by Haliburton and the arms dealers. Saddam Hussein arm&#8217;s of mass destruction was a hoax but not the 330 billion of oil under his feet.  You see. Hoaxes are everywhere. This hoax is fantastic one and like I said, it&#8217;s the way it will happen. No joke.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDgrvYd36k&#038;eurl=http://www.itulip.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDgrvYd36k&#038;eurl=http://www.itulip.com/</a></p>
<p>This was not a hoaxe. It was on Bloomberg Asia on Sunday night. 53 trillion debts. I think the interviewed manager is dutch. Maybe it&#8217;s him ? <img src='http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!  Looks like the Fortis article was a hoax!

http://ml-implode.com/staticnews/2008-07-02_FortisCollapsePredictionAHoax.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  Looks like the Fortis article was a hoax!</p>
<p><a href="http://ml-implode.com/staticnews/2008-07-02_FortisCollapsePredictionAHoax.html" rel="nofollow">http://ml-implode.com/staticnews/2008-07-02_FortisCollapsePredictionAHoax.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I can pray for you. You have seen the employment situation for june in the US ? It&#039;s not government stats and lies by the Labor Department. It&#039;s data from the private sector, Horrendous. -79,000 in one single month.  As for a solution ? 

I am not that bright. Bankers and politicians  blow up bubbles and after that,  it&#039;s your problem not theirs. Can you get another job in another region ? Reading you, I really have  the impression that it&#039;s 1929 all over again or even worse.

Hang on to what is important, you health your wife your family. Maybe let go of the house ?  Try to sublet it or having renters in one part of  the house ? Try to obtain a modification ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can pray for you. You have seen the employment situation for june in the US ? It&#8217;s not government stats and lies by the Labor Department. It&#8217;s data from the private sector, Horrendous. -79,000 in one single month.  As for a solution ? </p>
<p>I am not that bright. Bankers and politicians  blow up bubbles and after that,  it&#8217;s your problem not theirs. Can you get another job in another region ? Reading you, I really have  the impression that it&#8217;s 1929 all over again or even worse.</p>
<p>Hang on to what is important, you health your wife your family. Maybe let go of the house ?  Try to sublet it or having renters in one part of  the house ? Try to obtain a modification ?</p>
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