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		<title>By: Usnzth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usnzth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Titanic was too big to sink.</description>
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		<title>By: Hubba-Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubba-Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno... I can see Wamu&#039;s HQ from my over-priced apartment. Looks like business as usual here on the streets of Seattle....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno&#8230; I can see Wamu&#8217;s HQ from my over-priced apartment. Looks like business as usual here on the streets of Seattle&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they next after Indymac ? Can we venture that there is a strong probability of a bank run on Wamu ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they next after Indymac ? Can we venture that there is a strong probability of a bank run on Wamu ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the credit default swaps on the debts of the US government are exploding. Now this is real news. Woa ! 

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/phony-accounting-on-fannie-freddie.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the credit default swaps on the debts of the US government are exploding. Now this is real news. Woa ! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/phony-accounting-on-fannie-freddie.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/phony-accounting-on-fannie-freddie.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you can be sure that foreigners have stopped believing in the bullshit produced in industrial quantities by the US financial industry. Two days ago Fannie and Freddie were going bust. Indymac is busted.

And wow suddenly like by miracle all the banks earnings are not that bad. Bastards ! I have finished believing any bullshit coming out of banks. They make the numbers they want. It&#039;s like the phoney government statistics and the psychopath Bush. &quot;Our banking system is solid.&quot; Bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you can be sure that foreigners have stopped believing in the bullshit produced in industrial quantities by the US financial industry. Two days ago Fannie and Freddie were going bust. Indymac is busted.</p>
<p>And wow suddenly like by miracle all the banks earnings are not that bad. Bastards ! I have finished believing any bullshit coming out of banks. They make the numbers they want. It&#8217;s like the phoney government statistics and the psychopath Bush. &#8220;Our banking system is solid.&#8221; Bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: FromStox2Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromStox2Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. Today I went to buy some gold from my dealer, and his office was closed.  The note on the door said, &quot;Thursday, July 10th.  Clients, I have just been approved to do an appraisal for one of the countries&#039; largest banks.  For security reasons, I will have to close my doors for two weeks.  Please call _______ for updates.&quot;  My coin and bullion dealer is one of the oldest in the business.  He&#039;s had his coin shops (now down to one) for over 50 years.  The only thing I can imagine is that a &quot;large&quot; bank needs a specialist in metals and coins to appraise their holdings for official reasons.  Very interesting.  BTW, I live in Las Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Today I went to buy some gold from my dealer, and his office was closed.  The note on the door said, &#8220;Thursday, July 10th.  Clients, I have just been approved to do an appraisal for one of the countries&#8217; largest banks.  For security reasons, I will have to close my doors for two weeks.  Please call _______ for updates.&#8221;  My coin and bullion dealer is one of the oldest in the business.  He&#8217;s had his coin shops (now down to one) for over 50 years.  The only thing I can imagine is that a &#8220;large&#8221; bank needs a specialist in metals and coins to appraise their holdings for official reasons.  Very interesting.  BTW, I live in Las Vegas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you guys in Hillsborough with the old money...you&#039;re asking the wrong people I think...if you have old money, what do the old money people think?  Ack! Forget that! They looking for pillowcases right now! LOL

Seriously, I just had a conversation with my husband - we&#039;re in the Bay Area too - professional Real Estate Investors - OMG!!!! with some old and new money...and we think the hardest hit will be the worker bees, but here&#039;s the clincher, what happens to the queen bee when the workers die off?  How depressing!

I think we&#039;re in a world of hurt. Who is going to buy our high priced houses if only high income people can afford them and they want out?  Who is going to be able to pay even rents consistently with a crash?  If your house is paid off, good, stay put, plant a victory garden...we don&#039;t have the former, but I&#039;m leaving now to the store to buy some seeds to sow~!

I bet the price of booze goes up as demand increases! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you guys in Hillsborough with the old money&#8230;you&#8217;re asking the wrong people I think&#8230;if you have old money, what do the old money people think?  Ack! Forget that! They looking for pillowcases right now! LOL</p>
<p>Seriously, I just had a conversation with my husband &#8211; we&#8217;re in the Bay Area too &#8211; professional Real Estate Investors &#8211; OMG!!!! with some old and new money&#8230;and we think the hardest hit will be the worker bees, but here&#8217;s the clincher, what happens to the queen bee when the workers die off?  How depressing!</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re in a world of hurt. Who is going to buy our high priced houses if only high income people can afford them and they want out?  Who is going to be able to pay even rents consistently with a crash?  If your house is paid off, good, stay put, plant a victory garden&#8230;we don&#8217;t have the former, but I&#8217;m leaving now to the store to buy some seeds to sow~!</p>
<p>I bet the price of booze goes up as demand increases! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Stu for the information.</description>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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The FDIC never releases its ratings on the safety and soundness of banks and thrift institutions to the public. 
However, there are private companies that provide their own ratings of these institutions. 

As a service to consumers, the staff of the FDIC Library has compiled a listing of several financial institution rating services. 

Disclaimer:   This list should not be construed as an endorsement or confirmation by the FDIC of information provided by these companies.

Services

The bank rating services listed alphabetically below offer a variety of online, web-based, paper and CD-ROM based services that cover banks, bank holding companies, savings and loans and savings banks. 

These services usually assign each institution a letter grade or numerical ranking which is meant to indicate the safety or soundness of the institution. 
These rankings are determined through the use of proprietary formulas that are applied to data collected by the bank and thrift regulatory agencies. These formulas vary from service to service. 
Most of the formulas use data based upon some variation of CAMELS rating factors – Capital, Asset quality, Management, Earnings, Liquidity and Sensitivity to market risk. 
DeNovo institutions have unique characteristics that ratings formulas may not fully recognize. 
Most of the rating services offer subscriptions to specific print and online publications. Several offer ratings over the telephone. 

Please contact the companies listed to obtain further information about the full range of services and products offered. 

 
  
 A.M. Best Company 
Website: http://www3.ambest.com/banks/default.asp
Oldwick, New Jersey 08858-0700
Phone: (908) 439-2200 x5633
Fax: (908) 439-2237
e-mail: banking.analysis@ambest.com  
 Product: 
 Best’s Bank Deposit Rating (BDR) is an assessment of the operating bank’s ability to honor its ongoing obligations to depositors
  
Best’s Issuer Credit Rating (ICR) is an assessment of the bank’s ability to honor its ongoing senior-most obligations.
  
Best’s Bank Debt Rating is an assessment of the issuer’s ability to meet its ongoing financial obligations to security holders when due. 

Ratings on a scale from ‘aaa’ being the strongest to ‘d’ being the weakest, and may be enhanced with a ‘+’ or ‘-‘ to indicate whether credit quality is near the top or bottom of a category. 
 
 Institutions rated:
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 Rating method:
 Primary Rating Principles: 
Quantitative as well as qualitative assessments of banking operations incorporating management meetings and discussions with the rated institution.
  
Industry peer comparison.
  
Long-term focus through industry cycles.
  
Rating profile determined by both current and stressed conditions.
  
Consideration of impacts of affiliates and parent companies within the group. 
 
 Key Rating Considerations: Long-term core earnings capability: 
Historical earnings from core operations. 
Development of additional viable business lines for future earnings generation.
  
Business profile:
Franchise strength (brand recognition, defensible market leadership, niche stronghold, long-term client base). 
Competitive dynamics within pertinent markets. 
Profitability, stability and growth potential of primary lines of business. 
Diversified mix of assets and revenue sources (interest vs. fee income).
  
Balance sheet strength:
Liquidity profile (adequacy of funding to support existing business/future growth as well as diversification of short-/long-term sources of funding). 
Core capitalization (quality/adequacy in providing protection and capital requirements for existing business/future growth). 
Capital structure and financial flexibility (degree of leverage and short-/long-term access to various sources of financing). 
Asset quality (reviewed against de facto measures of credit loss statistics/risk concentration, as well as on credit risk management and administration).
  
Risk management:
Measurement and management of risk factors: interest rate, market, liquidity, currency, operational and other risks. 
Organization and control systems. 
Integrity of data and modeling techniques. 
Back-end validation testing.
  
Other factors:
Regulatory structure. 
Management and corporate governance. 
Parent company and affiliated operations. 
 
 Cost:
 Bank Credit Reports are available to the public at a cost of $75.00 for each company report. (Separately, banks that are rated by A.M. Best are charged a rating fee, based on asset size and other criteria.)
  
  For further information regarding A.M. Best Ratings, visit A.M. Best’s website at: www.ambest.com. 

Some others are as follows:

Bankrate Inc
BauerFinancial Inc
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The FDIC never releases its ratings on the safety and soundness of banks and thrift institutions to the public.<br />
However, there are private companies that provide their own ratings of these institutions. </p>
<p>As a service to consumers, the staff of the FDIC Library has compiled a listing of several financial institution rating services. </p>
<p>Disclaimer:   This list should not be construed as an endorsement or confirmation by the FDIC of information provided by these companies.</p>
<p>Services</p>
<p>The bank rating services listed alphabetically below offer a variety of online, web-based, paper and CD-ROM based services that cover banks, bank holding companies, savings and loans and savings banks. </p>
<p>These services usually assign each institution a letter grade or numerical ranking which is meant to indicate the safety or soundness of the institution.<br />
These rankings are determined through the use of proprietary formulas that are applied to data collected by the bank and thrift regulatory agencies. These formulas vary from service to service.<br />
Most of the formulas use data based upon some variation of CAMELS rating factors – Capital, Asset quality, Management, Earnings, Liquidity and Sensitivity to market risk.<br />
DeNovo institutions have unique characteristics that ratings formulas may not fully recognize.<br />
Most of the rating services offer subscriptions to specific print and online publications. Several offer ratings over the telephone. </p>
<p>Please contact the companies listed to obtain further information about the full range of services and products offered. </p>
<p> A.M. Best Company<br />
Website: <a href="http://www3.ambest.com/banks/default.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www3.ambest.com/banks/default.asp</a><br />
Oldwick, New Jersey 08858-0700<br />
Phone: (908) 439-2200 x5633<br />
Fax: (908) 439-2237<br />
e-mail: <a href="mailto:banking.analysis@ambest.com">banking.analysis@ambest.com</a><br />
 Product:<br />
 Best’s Bank Deposit Rating (BDR) is an assessment of the operating bank’s ability to honor its ongoing obligations to depositors</p>
<p>Best’s Issuer Credit Rating (ICR) is an assessment of the bank’s ability to honor its ongoing senior-most obligations.</p>
<p>Best’s Bank Debt Rating is an assessment of the issuer’s ability to meet its ongoing financial obligations to security holders when due. </p>
<p>Ratings on a scale from ‘aaa’ being the strongest to ‘d’ being the weakest, and may be enhanced with a ‘+’ or ‘-‘ to indicate whether credit quality is near the top or bottom of a category. </p>
<p> Institutions rated:<br />
  U.S. banks and bank holding companies.<br />
 Rating method:<br />
 Primary Rating Principles:<br />
Quantitative as well as qualitative assessments of banking operations incorporating management meetings and discussions with the rated institution.</p>
<p>Industry peer comparison.</p>
<p>Long-term focus through industry cycles.</p>
<p>Rating profile determined by both current and stressed conditions.</p>
<p>Consideration of impacts of affiliates and parent companies within the group. </p>
<p> Key Rating Considerations: Long-term core earnings capability:<br />
Historical earnings from core operations.<br />
Development of additional viable business lines for future earnings generation.</p>
<p>Business profile:<br />
Franchise strength (brand recognition, defensible market leadership, niche stronghold, long-term client base).<br />
Competitive dynamics within pertinent markets.<br />
Profitability, stability and growth potential of primary lines of business.<br />
Diversified mix of assets and revenue sources (interest vs. fee income).</p>
<p>Balance sheet strength:<br />
Liquidity profile (adequacy of funding to support existing business/future growth as well as diversification of short-/long-term sources of funding).<br />
Core capitalization (quality/adequacy in providing protection and capital requirements for existing business/future growth).<br />
Capital structure and financial flexibility (degree of leverage and short-/long-term access to various sources of financing).<br />
Asset quality (reviewed against de facto measures of credit loss statistics/risk concentration, as well as on credit risk management and administration).</p>
<p>Risk management:<br />
Measurement and management of risk factors: interest rate, market, liquidity, currency, operational and other risks.<br />
Organization and control systems.<br />
Integrity of data and modeling techniques.<br />
Back-end validation testing.</p>
<p>Other factors:<br />
Regulatory structure.<br />
Management and corporate governance.<br />
Parent company and affiliated operations. </p>
<p> Cost:<br />
 Bank Credit Reports are available to the public at a cost of $75.00 for each company report. (Separately, banks that are rated by A.M. Best are charged a rating fee, based on asset size and other criteria.)</p>
<p>  For further information regarding A.M. Best Ratings, visit A.M. Best’s website at: <a href="http://www.ambest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ambest.com</a>. </p>
<p>Some others are as follows:</p>
<p>Bankrate Inc<br />
BauerFinancial Inc<br />
Creative Investment Research Inc<br />
Financial Information Systems LLC<br />
Highline Data LLC<br />
IDC Financial PublishingInstitutional Risk AnalyticsLACE Financial Corp<br />
Veribanc<br />
Weiss Ratings Inc</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we have the list of the 90 US banks on the brink of bankruptcy ? The FDIC (fascist deposit insurance corporation) refuses to give the information.
Apparently, they want to calm the prevalent panic. Morons ! These stupid morons are giving supplementary reasons to people for withdrawing their money. That&#039;s what you should do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we have the list of the 90 US banks on the brink of bankruptcy ? The FDIC (fascist deposit insurance corporation) refuses to give the information.<br />
Apparently, they want to calm the prevalent panic. Morons ! These stupid morons are giving supplementary reasons to people for withdrawing their money. That&#8217;s what you should do.</p>
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