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		<title>By: fedwatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>fedwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on now. This is what politicians have always done:

&quot;Hope that the problem will go away or fix itself.&quot;

Delay is the only solution they can agree on. Everything else admits failure.

Failure in regulation.
Failure in oversight.
Failure in recognizing that they had let Wall Street construct a house of cards so intertwined that all the players had to be bailed out.
Failure to protect the homeowner (home debter).
Failure to protect the 401Ks that had replaced the pension plans of old.
Failure to protect the suckers that bought what Wall Street sold.
Failure to protect the dollar.

These were the &quot;Friends of Tony Mozillow&quot; who got special deals on their home loans.

Did you think that the rules of FASB 157 and Basel II would be allowed to expose the Enron like carnage that has occurred?

No way! There are other rabbits that will be pulled out of the hat before the first Tuesday in November.

After that, the sky will be falling.

God help the next president. I wish him well, whoever he may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on now. This is what politicians have always done:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hope that the problem will go away or fix itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Delay is the only solution they can agree on. Everything else admits failure.</p>
<p>Failure in regulation.<br />
Failure in oversight.<br />
Failure in recognizing that they had let Wall Street construct a house of cards so intertwined that all the players had to be bailed out.<br />
Failure to protect the homeowner (home debter).<br />
Failure to protect the 401Ks that had replaced the pension plans of old.<br />
Failure to protect the suckers that bought what Wall Street sold.<br />
Failure to protect the dollar.</p>
<p>These were the &#8220;Friends of Tony Mozillow&#8221; who got special deals on their home loans.</p>
<p>Did you think that the rules of FASB 157 and Basel II would be allowed to expose the Enron like carnage that has occurred?</p>
<p>No way! There are other rabbits that will be pulled out of the hat before the first Tuesday in November.</p>
<p>After that, the sky will be falling.</p>
<p>God help the next president. I wish him well, whoever he may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is partly why there is total panic in Washington right now... 

I don&#039;t know if this statement is true, but I trust if Roubini said it then it must be. All of this L3 and off balance sheet paper is growing at an ever alarming pace. If some of these lenders are forced to take this sludge back onto their books they will almost instantly be underwater themselves by the looks of it. The FDIC would equally be underwater and everyone would need to be bailed out at the same time with no money left in the till to do so. Fannie and Freddie will see to that pronto as they are ever so close now to sucking a quick 50 Billion or so in my opinion from the American Tax Payers. 

Here is Roubini’s quote and it is rather ominous to say the least!!!

Professor Nouriel Roubini of New York University, one of the first economists to warn of the dangers of the American house price boom, believes the number of people positively choosing to walk away is growing rapidly. 

&quot;This is becoming a tsunami of voluntary defaults,&quot; 

&quot;The losses for the financial system from people walking away could be of the order of one trillion dollars when the entire capital of the US banking system is only $1.3 trillion. 

&quot;You could have most of the US banking system wiped out, so this is a total disaster.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is partly why there is total panic in Washington right now&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this statement is true, but I trust if Roubini said it then it must be. All of this L3 and off balance sheet paper is growing at an ever alarming pace. If some of these lenders are forced to take this sludge back onto their books they will almost instantly be underwater themselves by the looks of it. The FDIC would equally be underwater and everyone would need to be bailed out at the same time with no money left in the till to do so. Fannie and Freddie will see to that pronto as they are ever so close now to sucking a quick 50 Billion or so in my opinion from the American Tax Payers. </p>
<p>Here is Roubini’s quote and it is rather ominous to say the least!!!</p>
<p>Professor Nouriel Roubini of New York University, one of the first economists to warn of the dangers of the American house price boom, believes the number of people positively choosing to walk away is growing rapidly. </p>
<p>&#8220;This is becoming a tsunami of voluntary defaults,&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;The losses for the financial system from people walking away could be of the order of one trillion dollars when the entire capital of the US banking system is only $1.3 trillion. </p>
<p>&#8220;You could have most of the US banking system wiped out, so this is a total disaster.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth doctor. Now that would be a nice nickname for George W. Bush. Truth doctor. I remember ENRON and WorldCon. The place hasn&#039;t changed. On the contrary.

Now, since september 11th, ENRON accounting practices are accounting standards  at Fannnie, Freddie and ah yes, the United States of Debts. Like I said no problemo Truth Doctor.

&quot;If the lie is big enough, and you repeat it continually, they will believe it.&quot; Goebbels. That&#039;s what Paulson, your politicians and the bankers are doing.
I is partly working. I am impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth doctor. Now that would be a nice nickname for George W. Bush. Truth doctor. I remember ENRON and WorldCon. The place hasn&#8217;t changed. On the contrary.</p>
<p>Now, since september 11th, ENRON accounting practices are accounting standards  at Fannnie, Freddie and ah yes, the United States of Debts. Like I said no problemo Truth Doctor.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the lie is big enough, and you repeat it continually, they will believe it.&#8221; Goebbels. That&#8217;s what Paulson, your politicians and the bankers are doing.<br />
I is partly working. I am impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur Anderson got caugh. I don&#039;t think you understand what is going on Tony. Now I don&#039;t know if all these things will stick. But what I am implying here, that in the case of the banking system and the banks, Paulson and his bunch will do anything. Obvious has a good point here.

Numbers or the reality of numbers are unimportant for them. You listen on TV these politicians saying that the losses of Fannie and Freddie are just 25 billion and you know that ANYTHING goes, including changing the accounting rules. What rules anyways ?

By the way  an amortization on 25 years for the whole and hole mess would be a good idea. Seriously. These people do not intend respecting GAAP standards or audited accounts. Why would they anyways ? 

Fundementally nothing has changed in the USA since ENRON, Arthurs Anderson, the Internet bubble, PARMALAT or Tyco. Nothing. Yes. It&#039;s far worse than in 2000 ! :) :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur Anderson got caugh. I don&#8217;t think you understand what is going on Tony. Now I don&#8217;t know if all these things will stick. But what I am implying here, that in the case of the banking system and the banks, Paulson and his bunch will do anything. Obvious has a good point here.</p>
<p>Numbers or the reality of numbers are unimportant for them. You listen on TV these politicians saying that the losses of Fannie and Freddie are just 25 billion and you know that ANYTHING goes, including changing the accounting rules. What rules anyways ?</p>
<p>By the way  an amortization on 25 years for the whole and hole mess would be a good idea. Seriously. These people do not intend respecting GAAP standards or audited accounts. Why would they anyways ? </p>
<p>Fundementally nothing has changed in the USA since ENRON, Arthurs Anderson, the Internet bubble, PARMALAT or Tyco. Nothing. Yes. It&#8217;s far worse than in 2000 ! <img src='http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Just4Laughs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just4Laughs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any measures taken by lawmakers and other government bureaucrats are all destined to cause a prolonged and painful downward economic spiral. By making things less transparent they actually instill more mistrust between banks. This dampens banks willingness to lend, causing more economic hardships. This is what happened in Japan. Government intervention prolonged economic recovery for more than 15 years now. The similarities here are striking. Maybe our incompetent lousy and corrupt government wants us to suffer a long and painful standard of living downsize. I wonder what the end will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any measures taken by lawmakers and other government bureaucrats are all destined to cause a prolonged and painful downward economic spiral. By making things less transparent they actually instill more mistrust between banks. This dampens banks willingness to lend, causing more economic hardships. This is what happened in Japan. Government intervention prolonged economic recovery for more than 15 years now. The similarities here are striking. Maybe our incompetent lousy and corrupt government wants us to suffer a long and painful standard of living downsize. I wonder what the end will be.</p>
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		<title>By: obvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Duh !!!  if you have to re-capitalize by selling new stock issues you can&#039;t have the floor fall out from underneath just yet.  Hold off all those losses till the bamks sell a few dozen billion worth.  Then you can implement the new accounting standards.  That way the Joe Sixers can pay the bills</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Duh !!!  if you have to re-capitalize by selling new stock issues you can&#8217;t have the floor fall out from underneath just yet.  Hold off all those losses till the bamks sell a few dozen billion worth.  Then you can implement the new accounting standards.  That way the Joe Sixers can pay the bills</p>
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		<title>By: Truth doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Marc Authier,

Go crawl back under your bridge, troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Marc Authier,</p>
<p>Go crawl back under your bridge, troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Buzan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Buzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All sarcasm aside, the top auditing firms were extremely chastened by the dismemberment of Arthur Andersen a few years ago and the various lawsuits with big payouts associated with some of the scandals of that period.

Recall the sharp downdraft when the first wave of AUDITED financial statements after the subprime crisis hit most (not all!) radar screens last year.

Then the accounting games began with the quarterly reports, many of those games highlighted here in this blog.

If I can&#039;t convince you, touch base with me in February 2009.

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All sarcasm aside, the top auditing firms were extremely chastened by the dismemberment of Arthur Andersen a few years ago and the various lawsuits with big payouts associated with some of the scandals of that period.</p>
<p>Recall the sharp downdraft when the first wave of AUDITED financial statements after the subprime crisis hit most (not all!) radar screens last year.</p>
<p>Then the accounting games began with the quarterly reports, many of those games highlighted here in this blog.</p>
<p>If I can&#8217;t convince you, touch base with me in February 2009.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Authier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Authier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Audited by Paulson and company. See. No problemo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audited by Paulson and company. See. No problemo.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Buzan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Buzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well keep in mind the AUDITED financial reports are due out at the first year, where they can&#039;t get by with the quarterly report shenanigans.

Having the auditors around is a bit like having the FBI over for dinner.  Nobody particularly likes them.  And with the FASB tightening up, there is sure to be lots of blood on the floor early next spring.

More than half of it is a function of the calendar.

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well keep in mind the AUDITED financial reports are due out at the first year, where they can&#8217;t get by with the quarterly report shenanigans.</p>
<p>Having the auditors around is a bit like having the FBI over for dinner.  Nobody particularly likes them.  And with the FASB tightening up, there is sure to be lots of blood on the floor early next spring.</p>
<p>More than half of it is a function of the calendar.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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