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		<title>By: Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; NO MORE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS SOON - Get Ready to Default!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; NO MORE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS SOON - Get Ready to Default!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] work. These will be continual problems when they try to fit a square borrower into a round hole.  Click HERE for my Wachovia write-up.  This is another reason why the &#8216;free mortgage payment bailout&#8217; may be the only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] work. These will be continual problems when they try to fit a square borrower into a round hole.  Click HERE for my Wachovia write-up.  This is another reason why the &#8216;free mortgage payment bailout&#8217; may be the only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; &#8216;60 Minutes&#8217; Brought it Home Last Night</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; &#8216;60 Minutes&#8217; Brought it Home Last Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally Addressing Their Pay Option Portfolio (22) Posted on September 26, 2008 11:26 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally Addressing Their Pay Option Portfolio (22) Posted on September 26, 2008 11:26 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; CA Association of Realtors Needs a Math Class&#8230;Perhaps Ethics as Well</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mortgage&#8217;s Guide to the TRUTH! &#187; CA Association of Realtors Needs a Math Class&#8230;Perhaps Ethics as Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Realtors Needs a Math Class…Perhaps Ethics as WellDear Washington - A Real Plan For YouWachovia Finally Addressing Their Pay Option PortfolioWaMu Fails - Bigger News Than You May ThinkBofA CEO Says ‘Half the Banks Will be Gone’ in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Realtors Needs a Math Class…Perhaps Ethics as WellDear Washington &#8211; A Real Plan For YouWachovia Finally Addressing Their Pay Option PortfolioWaMu Fails &#8211; Bigger News Than You May ThinkBofA CEO Says ‘Half the Banks Will be Gone’ in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Art Vandeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Vandeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bilejones, thanks for the feedback.  I understand where you&#039;re coming from, since I&#039;ve also had Arm-Chair Republican tendencies before and have to remember that not everyone has had the financial independence and good fortune I&#039;ve had so far in my life and career as a broker.     

We can complain about lazy government workers, high taxes, and bailing out &quot;whiners, losers, and deadbeats&quot; all day long, but we&#039;re dealing with individual lives, families, and millions of potential job losses if the CAUSE (foreclosures) isn&#039;t halted immediately, which is triggering the EFFECT ($67+Trillion of Unregulated Derivative&#039;s, CDO&#039;s, and CDS&#039;s) which is the real threat to the banks and other financial institutions.    

Gretchen Morgensen&#039;s article about AIG in this morning&#039;s NY Times shares how a 377 employee unit in London brought down a stable, 116,000 employee company by diving deep into Derivatives, CDO&#039;s, and CDS&#039;s.  

I believe the banks and investors could probably handle the wave of foreclosures, if that&#039;s all that it was.  But it&#039;s not.  Unfortunately, for every $1,000,000 in loans, there&#039;s $3,000,000 in Derivative products attached (that we know about)that can potentially trigger a &quot;credit event.&quot;  

Banks hold lots of Derivatives.  Private Equity and Hedge Funds borrowed money from these same banks to buy and sell derivatives as well.  Someone&#039;s winning big and someones losing big in these credit events.  Banks may never see that Hedge Fund or PE money ever again.  More losses, more need to raise capital from somewhere.  Undercapitalized banks don&#039;t lend money.  They hoard it.

All of this starts with homeowners and ends with homeowners.  The more that intentionally default on their upside down mortgage cause more credit events and more losses for banks, who in turn shut off credit to each other, to small, medium, and big business.  Jobs are lost and the cycle just spins further and further down the rabbit hole.     

Let&#039;s hope Paulson can both capitalize the banks and find a fast and effective solution for 11,000,000 potentially upside down homes.  People are hoping for the best and are willing to do whatever it takes to keep their family in their homes and community in tact.  Let&#039;s hope the government finds a mutually beneficial program to make this happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bilejones, thanks for the feedback.  I understand where you&#8217;re coming from, since I&#8217;ve also had Arm-Chair Republican tendencies before and have to remember that not everyone has had the financial independence and good fortune I&#8217;ve had so far in my life and career as a broker.     </p>
<p>We can complain about lazy government workers, high taxes, and bailing out &#8220;whiners, losers, and deadbeats&#8221; all day long, but we&#8217;re dealing with individual lives, families, and millions of potential job losses if the CAUSE (foreclosures) isn&#8217;t halted immediately, which is triggering the EFFECT ($67+Trillion of Unregulated Derivative&#8217;s, CDO&#8217;s, and CDS&#8217;s) which is the real threat to the banks and other financial institutions.    </p>
<p>Gretchen Morgensen&#8217;s article about AIG in this morning&#8217;s NY Times shares how a 377 employee unit in London brought down a stable, 116,000 employee company by diving deep into Derivatives, CDO&#8217;s, and CDS&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>I believe the banks and investors could probably handle the wave of foreclosures, if that&#8217;s all that it was.  But it&#8217;s not.  Unfortunately, for every $1,000,000 in loans, there&#8217;s $3,000,000 in Derivative products attached (that we know about)that can potentially trigger a &#8220;credit event.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Banks hold lots of Derivatives.  Private Equity and Hedge Funds borrowed money from these same banks to buy and sell derivatives as well.  Someone&#8217;s winning big and someones losing big in these credit events.  Banks may never see that Hedge Fund or PE money ever again.  More losses, more need to raise capital from somewhere.  Undercapitalized banks don&#8217;t lend money.  They hoard it.</p>
<p>All of this starts with homeowners and ends with homeowners.  The more that intentionally default on their upside down mortgage cause more credit events and more losses for banks, who in turn shut off credit to each other, to small, medium, and big business.  Jobs are lost and the cycle just spins further and further down the rabbit hole.     </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope Paulson can both capitalize the banks and find a fast and effective solution for 11,000,000 potentially upside down homes.  People are hoping for the best and are willing to do whatever it takes to keep their family in their homes and community in tact.  Let&#8217;s hope the government finds a mutually beneficial program to make this happen.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if we bailout ordinary homedebtors just like with Wall St, I WANT to share an upside, I&#039;m absolutely against doling out free money. Future earning streams MUST be tapped, there should be some sort of options on house price appreciations, etc. That&#039;s why it just won&#039;t work, there are no securities mechanism to squeeze homedebtors future earnings or capital gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if we bailout ordinary homedebtors just like with Wall St, I WANT to share an upside, I&#8217;m absolutely against doling out free money. Future earning streams MUST be tapped, there should be some sort of options on house price appreciations, etc. That&#8217;s why it just won&#8217;t work, there are no securities mechanism to squeeze homedebtors future earnings or capital gains.</p>
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		<title>By: bilejones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilejones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art Vandalay is full of crap. There are 145 million people with jobs in this county. 45 million of those are ultimately parasite jobs for the government of the remaining, only 50% pay income taxes. Why should these people who pay all the freight for everything. be forced, at the point of a gun, to become mortgage lenders to a bunch of whiners, losers and deadbeats, like I suspect, Vanderlay himself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Vandalay is full of crap. There are 145 million people with jobs in this county. 45 million of those are ultimately parasite jobs for the government of the remaining, only 50% pay income taxes. Why should these people who pay all the freight for everything. be forced, at the point of a gun, to become mortgage lenders to a bunch of whiners, losers and deadbeats, like I suspect, Vanderlay himself</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>URGENT ACTION NEEDED! -- Contact the courageous Indiana Congressman who is standing up to the Fed !

Right now senior Indiana Congressman Mike Pence (R) and others are at Capitol Hill holding their ground against The Fed, Bush, Paulson, and Bernacke. Time is of the essence because Bush continues to feed the message to the media that our world will melt on Monday if they don&#039;t get their $700+ billion bailout regardless of what America&#039;s taxpayers want. This is not true. America will still be here on Tuesday.

Currently, Congressman Pence is wisely calling for a suspension of the capital gains tax on investments in order to encourage the millions of Americans without debt to invest in the markets. Here is the Congressman&#039;s plan.

Call Congressman Pence from Indiana, tell him America has his back, and ask him to co-sponsor HR 2755, The Act to Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank, the culprits who want to steal our wealth and leave generations in debt to their private consortium of bankers. The Congressman&#039;s office is receptive to your message!

PLEASE FORWARD THE MESSAGE BELOW TO YOUR LISTS:

&quot;We are helping the Indiana tax activists with HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION in Congressman Mike Pence&#039;s home state of Indiana. They have a solid verifiable track record of successes and political network that includes elected officials on the right side.

Mike Pence, a courageous Senior Congressman from Indiana, was first to stand down the Fed against the bailout. Please call and fax his Indiana Office. Tell him we are grateful for his courage, tell him America has his back, and ask him to co-sponsor HR 2755, the Act to Abolish The Federal Reserve Bank and return America&#039;s wealth to her own Treasury! There is unbelievable ground support and the Congressman is getting calls from high places to co-sponsor the Act to Abolish the Federal Reserve, HR2755.

Be polite, enthusiastic, and be sure to thank him for his courage!

The numbers below are for his campaign office. There will likely be staff in his office this weekend. If no answer, send a fax and leave voicemails with your name, city, state. It doesn&#039;t matter if you are not from Indiana.

REP MIKE PENCE INDIANA OFFICE
PHONE: 765-643-9503
FAX: 765-643-9514

P.s. Then don&#039;t forget to call your own local Congressperson and tell them her or him to stand with Representative Mike Pence and with the American People.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>URGENT ACTION NEEDED! &#8212; Contact the courageous Indiana Congressman who is standing up to the Fed !</p>
<p>Right now senior Indiana Congressman Mike Pence (R) and others are at Capitol Hill holding their ground against The Fed, Bush, Paulson, and Bernacke. Time is of the essence because Bush continues to feed the message to the media that our world will melt on Monday if they don&#8217;t get their $700+ billion bailout regardless of what America&#8217;s taxpayers want. This is not true. America will still be here on Tuesday.</p>
<p>Currently, Congressman Pence is wisely calling for a suspension of the capital gains tax on investments in order to encourage the millions of Americans without debt to invest in the markets. Here is the Congressman&#8217;s plan.</p>
<p>Call Congressman Pence from Indiana, tell him America has his back, and ask him to co-sponsor HR 2755, The Act to Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank, the culprits who want to steal our wealth and leave generations in debt to their private consortium of bankers. The Congressman&#8217;s office is receptive to your message!</p>
<p>PLEASE FORWARD THE MESSAGE BELOW TO YOUR LISTS:</p>
<p>&#8220;We are helping the Indiana tax activists with HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION in Congressman Mike Pence&#8217;s home state of Indiana. They have a solid verifiable track record of successes and political network that includes elected officials on the right side.</p>
<p>Mike Pence, a courageous Senior Congressman from Indiana, was first to stand down the Fed against the bailout. Please call and fax his Indiana Office. Tell him we are grateful for his courage, tell him America has his back, and ask him to co-sponsor HR 2755, the Act to Abolish The Federal Reserve Bank and return America&#8217;s wealth to her own Treasury! There is unbelievable ground support and the Congressman is getting calls from high places to co-sponsor the Act to Abolish the Federal Reserve, HR2755.</p>
<p>Be polite, enthusiastic, and be sure to thank him for his courage!</p>
<p>The numbers below are for his campaign office. There will likely be staff in his office this weekend. If no answer, send a fax and leave voicemails with your name, city, state. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you are not from Indiana.</p>
<p>REP MIKE PENCE INDIANA OFFICE<br />
PHONE: 765-643-9503<br />
FAX: 765-643-9514</p>
<p>P.s. Then don&#8217;t forget to call your own local Congressperson and tell them her or him to stand with Representative Mike Pence and with the American People.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: f\Future Home Buyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>f\Future Home Buyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin,
Sorry, I meant 50% off in 6 to 9 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin,<br />
Sorry, I meant 50% off in 6 to 9 months.</p>
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		<title>By: roshea</title>
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		<dc:creator>roshea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Bail Out! No BAIL OUT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Bail Out! No BAIL OUT!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the free market has always been working, people just don&#039;t like its pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the free market has always been working, people just don&#8217;t like its pricing.</p>
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