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	<title>Comments on: Mortgage Rates Soar &#8211; Fed Better Buy More</title>
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		<title>By: HedgeCo.Net &#124; Hedge Fund Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News that Moves: The Privateer: Gold vs. U.S.Treasuries &#38; Mr. Mortgage: Rising Rates and Delinquencies</title>
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		<dc:creator>HedgeCo.Net &#124; Hedge Fund Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News that Moves: The Privateer: Gold vs. U.S.Treasuries &#38; Mr. Mortgage: Rising Rates and Delinquencies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any legal “limits” to the debt of the US Treasury. The road is then open to unlimited debt. MR. Mortgage: Rates have shot up considerably in the past week and a half from roughly 5% at 1 point to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any legal “limits” to the debt of the US Treasury. The road is then open to unlimited debt. MR. Mortgage: Rates have shot up considerably in the past week and a half from roughly 5% at 1 point to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timing on this is amazing; they&#039;re not even trying to hide it anymore.  Last year I heard from friends at Freddie that they were &quot;requested&quot; to hold back their REO until AFTER the election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing on this is amazing; they&#8217;re not even trying to hide it anymore.  Last year I heard from friends at Freddie that they were &#8220;requested&#8221; to hold back their REO until AFTER the election&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I offer this up for your reading pleasure - and cautionary defense measures.  In case anyone out there still thinks that a Bank Holiday is something from the barbaric past - and that we have &#039;mechanisms&#039; in place to prevent such a situation here, you might want to take a look at some of your deposit/checking accounts and consider what you might do if the orderly wind-down now taking place, decides to get &#039;dis-orderly&#039;.

We&#039;re not &lt;i&gt;that far&lt;/i&gt; removed here from actions happening in the U.K. now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127278/Revealed-Day-banks-just-hours-collapse.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I offer this up for your reading pleasure &#8211; and cautionary defense measures.  In case anyone out there still thinks that a Bank Holiday is something from the barbaric past &#8211; and that we have &#8216;mechanisms&#8217; in place to prevent such a situation here, you might want to take a look at some of your deposit/checking accounts and consider what you might do if the orderly wind-down now taking place, decides to get &#8216;dis-orderly&#8217;.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not <i>that far</i> removed here from actions happening in the U.K. now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127278/Revealed-Day-banks-just-hours-collapse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127278/Revealed-Day-banks-just-hours-collapse.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still amazed at how many people across this nation don&#039;t still understand:

WHEN YOU ARE LOSING MONEY FROM LENDING, YOU DEMAND HIGHER RETURNS, not lower!!!

Mortgage rates have to go up in the long run, no matter what the outcome of all these socialist attempts are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still amazed at how many people across this nation don&#8217;t still understand:</p>
<p>WHEN YOU ARE LOSING MONEY FROM LENDING, YOU DEMAND HIGHER RETURNS, not lower!!!</p>
<p>Mortgage rates have to go up in the long run, no matter what the outcome of all these socialist attempts are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, Mr. Mortgage was screaming about this story months ago!!


The mainstream press is FINALLY catching on....

http://www.inman.com/news/2009/01/26/banks-unleash-flood-reos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Mr. Mortgage was screaming about this story months ago!!</p>
<p>The mainstream press is FINALLY catching on&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inman.com/news/2009/01/26/banks-unleash-flood-reos" rel="nofollow">http://www.inman.com/news/2009/01/26/banks-unleash-flood-reos</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mortgage Rates Soar to 5% What this is a problem? &#124; Live Local Rates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mortgage Rates Soar to 5% What this is a problem? &#124; Live Local Rates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a link to Mr. Mortgage blog. He writes well about this recent increase in rates and why this will cause mortgage [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Correspondent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Correspondent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, our Citi correspondent pricing is about 1.0 discount points better than the wholesale pricing shown above.  And that&#039;s about 3/4 point &quot;out&quot; from our best pricing. My best pricing at the close of 1/24/09 (with overnight price protection) is 100.814 @ 4.875% for a 30 day DELIVERY of an 80LTV, 741 score. Any broker relying on Citi whlsl pricing like that is a good 160 bps out.

Nevertheless, Mr. Mortgage has a good point about the Fed&#039;s MBS manipulations accruing to the benefit of PIMCO.  If I were Bill Gross, though, I would not be buying Treasuries.  If the Fed needs someone to buy treasuries, they can print money &amp; do it themselves.  Welcome to Zimbabwe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, our Citi correspondent pricing is about 1.0 discount points better than the wholesale pricing shown above.  And that&#8217;s about 3/4 point &#8220;out&#8221; from our best pricing. My best pricing at the close of 1/24/09 (with overnight price protection) is 100.814 @ 4.875% for a 30 day DELIVERY of an 80LTV, 741 score. Any broker relying on Citi whlsl pricing like that is a good 160 bps out.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, Mr. Mortgage has a good point about the Fed&#8217;s MBS manipulations accruing to the benefit of PIMCO.  If I were Bill Gross, though, I would not be buying Treasuries.  If the Fed needs someone to buy treasuries, they can print money &amp; do it themselves.  Welcome to Zimbabwe!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Day Minerly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Day Minerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC:

There is a fourth option:

Have the government enforce capitalism with my proposal or one similiar to it. Yes,some banks will fail based on their own past business decisions and actions. But you know, that is okay. There is no need for so many banks (8500), lending and borrowing will be contracting  to correct the &quot;phony &quot; economy we have experienced. You, yourself stated cash is king.

There is still pain involved, but it is less than what is still to come. 

Especially without the creation of more jobs here in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC:</p>
<p>There is a fourth option:</p>
<p>Have the government enforce capitalism with my proposal or one similiar to it. Yes,some banks will fail based on their own past business decisions and actions. But you know, that is okay. There is no need for so many banks (8500), lending and borrowing will be contracting  to correct the &#8220;phony &#8221; economy we have experienced. You, yourself stated cash is king.</p>
<p>There is still pain involved, but it is less than what is still to come. </p>
<p>Especially without the creation of more jobs here in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: C.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joan -

I&#039;m not certain of the direct mechanism by which the government allowing PR would drive interest rates up.


This is what I do know:  The banks do not want any part of this.  They are hoarding funds at present.  This in turn is putting political pressure on representatives to mitigate an impending mortgage debt-disaster with their constituencies.

In essence, it is pitting the homeowner against Wall Street - much as Susan has suggested.  The monied interests however run the political structure in DC behind the scenes, don&#039;t ever kid yourself of that.  They will always come first, up to and until Marie Antoinette loses her head for the second time. 

I&#039;m looking at this from a slightly larger perspective however.  The sheer amount of money - both already spent and currently allocated, is going to drive up interest rates - across the board.  It has to.  It&#039;s only a matter of time.  The $64k question is: When it starts, how quickly will they begin to run up?

Unfortunately, the government (that includes us, as we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; the government) is in a corner of which there is no painless alternative.  In that corner are two escape routes.

1. Raise interest rates to cover the losses - past, present and future and by doing so, immediately collapse what&#039;s left of our economy into a severe Depression.  Of which, we would again recover and build upon reality, but not without much interim pain &amp; suffering.

2. Quantitative easing - i.e., printing money with no backing to cover the losses and by doing so, create an inflationary firestorm that would ruin both the economy and the Republic.

*3. Default.  Which would in essence, bring about both aforementioned scenarios simultaneously.


This is where we&#039;re at.  It&#039;s not hopeless, but don&#039;t count on a painless turn-around of the status-quot anytime soon.  

-C.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joan -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not certain of the direct mechanism by which the government allowing PR would drive interest rates up.</p>
<p>This is what I do know:  The banks do not want any part of this.  They are hoarding funds at present.  This in turn is putting political pressure on representatives to mitigate an impending mortgage debt-disaster with their constituencies.</p>
<p>In essence, it is pitting the homeowner against Wall Street &#8211; much as Susan has suggested.  The monied interests however run the political structure in DC behind the scenes, don&#8217;t ever kid yourself of that.  They will always come first, up to and until Marie Antoinette loses her head for the second time. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at this from a slightly larger perspective however.  The sheer amount of money &#8211; both already spent and currently allocated, is going to drive up interest rates &#8211; across the board.  It has to.  It&#8217;s only a matter of time.  The $64k question is: When it starts, how quickly will they begin to run up?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the government (that includes us, as we <i>are</i> the government) is in a corner of which there is no painless alternative.  In that corner are two escape routes.</p>
<p>1. Raise interest rates to cover the losses &#8211; past, present and future and by doing so, immediately collapse what&#8217;s left of our economy into a severe Depression.  Of which, we would again recover and build upon reality, but not without much interim pain &amp; suffering.</p>
<p>2. Quantitative easing &#8211; i.e., printing money with no backing to cover the losses and by doing so, create an inflationary firestorm that would ruin both the economy and the Republic.</p>
<p>*3. Default.  Which would in essence, bring about both aforementioned scenarios simultaneously.</p>
<p>This is where we&#8217;re at.  It&#8217;s not hopeless, but don&#8217;t count on a painless turn-around of the status-quot anytime soon.  </p>
<p>-C.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Jett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks C.C..  Again, great advice too.

Staying on topic of Mortgage Rates Soaring (which is bad for me and those waiting to buy) how would the Government allowing principal reductions affect interest rates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks C.C..  Again, great advice too.</p>
<p>Staying on topic of Mortgage Rates Soaring (which is bad for me and those waiting to buy) how would the Government allowing principal reductions affect interest rates?</p>
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